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Eli and Elway

Mayhap : 10/17/2008 1:01 pm
It really is amazing how similar these two have been through the first few years of their careers, especially considering the fact that both refused to play for the franchise that had the number 1 pick.

Year 1:
Completion percentage: Elway - 47.5%, Eli - 48.2%
TD/INT ration: Elway - 7 TDs/14 INTs, Eli - 6 TDs/9 INTs
Passer rating: Elway - 54.9, Eli - 55.4

Year 2:
Completion percentage: Elway - 56.3%, Eli - 52.8%
TD/INT ration: Elway - 18 TDs/15 INTs, Eli - 24 TDs/17 INTs
Passer rating: Elway - 76.8, Eli - 75.9

Year 3:
Completion percentage: Elway - 54.0%, Eli - 57.7%
TD/INT ration: Elway - 22 TDs/23 INTs, Eli - 24 TDs/18 INTs
Passer rating: Elway - 70.2, Eli - 77.0

Year 4:
Completion percentage: Elway - 55.6%, Eli - 56.1%
TD/INT ration: Elway - 19 TDs/13 INTs, Eli - 23 TDs/20 INTs
Passer rating: Elway - 79.0, Eli - 73.9

Also, both went to their first Superbowl in their 4th year (except Eli beat the favored Patriots and Elway got blown out by the favored Giants).
and both...  
BillKo : 10/17/2008 1:08 pm : link
have a handful of nice 4th quarter comebacks.

Fully agree...their careers are similar. But remember Elway played during a period that was a little tougher defensively IMO.
While the numbers are similar,  
barens : 10/17/2008 1:15 pm : link
Elway had a lot more talent than Eli. Elway was good in the pocket, out of the pocket, and to this day, the best quarterback to throw the ball going against his body.
I think it's fair to say  
Mayhap : 10/17/2008 1:25 pm : link
that Elway was more athletic and threw better on the run, but saying he had 'a lot more talent' is a bit subjective and certainly debatable.
Elway was more talented...  
BillKo : 10/17/2008 1:34 pm : link
but anyone who watched him could watch three quarters sometimes and scatch their heads. Then he'd play an great fourth quarter.....kinda like Eli does sometime.

I actually believe Eli will put up better stats over his entire career, but again, it's a passer friendly league now more than ever. And that doesn't mean Eli is or will be a better QB. Elway is a Top 10 All Time.

Similarly, check out Troy Aikman's stats....again, not as good as you might suspect.
Not a fair comparison  
bebopson : 10/17/2008 1:37 pm : link
Completion percentages were lower overall in the 80's. You should subtract a few percentage points from Eli's numbers to make the comparison realistic.
I'm only 24, so I really didn't get to see Elway in his prime...  
Giants11737 : 10/17/2008 1:46 pm : link
but I'm shocked he threw so many INTs.
yeah, but Elway didn't have to play for  
SHO'NUFF : 10/17/2008 1:49 pm : link
GILBRIDE!!
When did Elway throw his 1st 5td game ?  
#10* : 10/17/2008 1:50 pm : link
Then we might know when Eli will have his.
OK  
Mayhap : 10/17/2008 1:55 pm : link
take three or four percentage points away from Eli and they're still very close. Eli throws more TDs as well and has a better TD/INT ratio for the most part, but that's probably also a result of the modern offense. Elway also had the intangibles, but clearly Eli's got them too.

I also think looking at Elway's career in retrospect results in some bias when making the comparison. I'd be very interested to read what was written about Elway four years into his career. Compared to his contemporaries, Elway was 27th on the passer rating list in 1983, 17th in 1984 and 1985, and 11th in 1986 (his best year until much later in his career). Statistically he was regularly outperformed by luminaries such as Dave Krieg, Neil Lomax, Ken Obrien and several others that were nowhere near the QB he was.
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Mayhap : 10/17/2008 1:59 pm : link
Elway had a 5 TD game against Minnesota in his second year, but he never had another one for the rest of his career.
I think Eli will see his 1st 5td game  
#10* : 10/17/2008 2:15 pm : link
when he sees Plax as a role player instead of his 1st option.
Mayhep...  
BillKo : 10/17/2008 2:43 pm : link
your reference to those decent QBs who "outstated" Elway is a great example of what happens today, with all the overanalysis and coverage.

Never were those QBs ever compared to Elway, but they would be to Eli today........
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